Hot & Bothered: An Abolitionist Green New Deal, with Jasson Perez

Hot & Bothered: An Abolitionist Green New Deal, with Jasson Perez

What does an abolitionist, ecosocialist program look like in practice? Researcher and organizer Jasson Perez explains why working toward police and prison abolition is key to building social movements and, ultimately, expanding the horizon of a vibrant working-class life.

Jasson Perez

The growing call to defund the police is inextricable from a wider push to democratize our institutions—from city governments up to the Federal Reserve Bank—so that they serve the multiracial working class rather than Wall Street. This, at its core, is what the Green New Deal is all about. But what does an abolitionist, ecosocialist program look like in practice? 

This week, Kate and Daniel speak to Jasson Perez, Senior Research Analyst at ACRE (the Action Center on Race and the Economy) and organizer with the Afro-Socialists & Socialists of Color Caucus of DSA. They discuss why defunding the police is an essential step toward ending anti-Black violence; how the Fed could step in to end austerity from the municipal level up; and what leftists around the country can learn from the coalition-building efforts that are transforming Chicago. Perez, who has previously worked as an organizer at SEIU Local 73 and BYP100, and as a researcher at the Cook Center on Social Equity, explains why working toward police and prison abolition is key to building social movements more broadly and, ultimately, expanding the horizon of a vibrant working-class life.

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Further reading

Critical Resistance

The answer to police violence is not ‘reform’. It’s defunding. Here’s why (Alex S. Vitale, The Guardian)

Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police (Mariame Kaba, New York Times)

Andrea J. Ritchie on Why We Need a World Without Police (Colorlines)

The Federal Reserve Can Help Workers in a Time of Crisis (Jasson Perez, Jacobin)

Fed Up: The National Campaign for a Strong Economy

On “targeted universalism”: From a Tangle of Pathology to a Race-Fair America (Alan Aja, Daniel Bustillo, William Darity, Jr., and Darrick Hamilton, Dissent)

‘Cops,’ Long-Running Reality Show That Glorified Police, Is Canceled (Nicole Sperling, New York Times)

Aiming to Underachieve: How a Federal Reserve Lending Program for Local Governments is Designed to Fall Short (Center for Public Democracy)